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Post by cooknl on Apr 8, 2012 18:08:04 GMT 2
I was just wondering if anyone has tried streaming their replays or live N-Heat races to your internet capable TV. If you do it or tried it  HOW? any special programs or ip capable or?? Thanx in advance for any program links or info you might have. Rob |
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Post by Blaxman on Apr 8, 2012 18:13:15 GMT 2
That would be truly interesting!  I dont have internet TV though....  |
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Post by cooknl on Apr 8, 2012 18:56:35 GMT 2
;D
Well I do it the hard way and that is like this.
1) Install Nheat on any puter with an HDMI output port.
2) Buy a long HDMI/HDMI cable
3) hookup long HDMI cable between Puter and TV (out to IN)
4) Run the playback file from the computer with nheat
5) Switch to active HDMI input port on youre TV and.........
there you go, you now have youre replay runnin on youre TV.
The above works great, But I am looking for a way without wire between puter and TV and then of course INTRANET in youre house is the logical answer.
Now I dont have the way to do it thru our local intranet thats why I started this thread.
Rob
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Post by DusterLag on Apr 8, 2012 20:26:55 GMT 2
Depends on the device your trying to stream to... But there are some sites like ustream or justin.tv that allow you to stream your pc video to the internet, on some devices you can stream to a TV or media device... www.ustream.tv/everywhere#tvsIf thats not working, what is the device you want to stream to? |
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Post by Blaxman on Apr 8, 2012 20:58:42 GMT 2
I was looking for live streaming some HEAT races. But the links for video game streaming capture are all broken. I got a software for it but it just dont fit HEAT. It demands the game to be played on window mode. Dont know how UStream work though. Will give it a try!  . |
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Post by cooknl on Apr 9, 2012 10:02:53 GMT 2
Depends on the device your trying to stream to... But there are some sites like ustream or justin.tv that allow you to stream your pc video to the internet, on some devices you can stream to a TV or media device... www.ustream.tv/everywhere#tvsIf thats not working, what is the device you want to stream to? Hey Dusterlag, As I mentioned above I want to be able to stream a Heat REPLAY to my samsung plasma TV its a SAMSUNG model PS51d8000. It has 4 HDMI inputs, digital sound out, and 2x usb and builtin wifi and a RJ45 for cable internet input from a router. Might even consider running races from the TV instead of the computer , but for that you need a portable stand for youre wheel to be able to drive from the livingroom and a portable puter. Thanks for the response will look at youre links and see if i can possibly stream from IP to IP, I think that is the best way to go. Rob |
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Post by DusterLag on Apr 9, 2012 12:59:58 GMT 2
I know this wasnt one of the site I first mentioned but I played around with some of them and found the Podcaster program from this one the easiest to use and setup... www.livestream.com/DusterMediaI did a crappy un-configured video of a replay. I'm going to try out a good one with my race setup and re-post if I can get the quality and "skipping" fixed. |
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Post by humty on Apr 9, 2012 15:32:37 GMT 2
Not to be rude, but this topic belongs here more then in a mod thread.
Cheers
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Post by DusterLag on Apr 9, 2012 16:20:48 GMT 2
Also based on reading this about your TV...
It tells me your TV supports flash so you would be able to view the video feed from one of these sites I have mentioned. Therefore you could setup the stream on your pc and view the live stream on your tv via on of those sites.
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Post by cooknl on Apr 9, 2012 23:15:08 GMT 2
Also based on reading this about your TV... It tells me your TV supports flash so you would be able to view the video feed from one of these sites I have mentioned. Therefore you could setup the stream on your pc and view the live stream on your tv via on of those sites. WEll Itriede to figure out how the thing works that you linked but its beyond me. Maybe i should look into a wire transmitter receiver via hdmi and for 1080P resolution. Looks like you can get one for about 250 bucks. <ight be the easyest way out. BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME A PC SERVER BY THE tv MIGHT WORK TOO. Rob |
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Post by DusterLag on Apr 10, 2012 1:44:47 GMT 2
Also based on reading this about your TV... It tells me your TV supports flash so you would be able to view the video feed from one of these sites I have mentioned. Therefore you could setup the stream on your pc and view the live stream on your tv via on of those sites. WEll Itriede to figure out how the thing works that you linked but its beyond me. Maybe i should look into a wire transmitter receiver via hdmi and for 1080P resolution. Looks like you can get one for about 250 bucks. <ight be the easyest way out. BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME A PC SERVER BY THE tv MIGHT WORK TOO. Rob Both are far better options quality and practicality wise, but are much more expensive then streaming for free. Be sure to let us know what you end up doing. |
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Post by cooknl on May 20, 2012 9:57:51 GMT 2
;D Found this adapter which costs 130 euro if you can buy it via ebay. look at this link for discription. eu.startech.com/AV/Extenders/HDMI/HDMI-over-IP-Extender-with-Audio~IPUSB2HD2let me know what yoiu guys think. On the other hand a ip/ip video server would be cheaper being its just software. Rob added: I emailed the startech mfgr to see if this product is still available and if it can show live direct video coming from hdmi port from PC grafix card and then interface it via its LAN net work output plug to an ip address, such as my TV ip adress. Hopefully get some kind of answer next week. |
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Post by DusterLag on May 20, 2012 18:38:08 GMT 2
;D Found this adapter which costs 130 euro if you can buy it via ebay. look at this link for discription. eu.startech.com/AV/Extenders/HDMI/HDMI-over-IP-Extender-with-Audio~IPUSB2HD2let me know what yoiu guys think. On the other hand a ip/ip video server would be cheaper being its just software. Rob added: I emailed the startech mfgr to see if this product is still available and if it can show live direct video coming from hdmi port from PC grafix card and then interface it via its LAN net work output plug to an ip address, such as my TV ip adress. Hopefully get some kind of answer next week. They sell this via re-sellers such as Amazon they have links near the picture on that page. So yes its still available. Good Tech. Basically this is how it works. You connect the device to your TV (any TV or monitor that has an HDMI input) and you also connect the device to your internal network. You setup a computer as a "server" that the device then finds and connects to. Then you can setup the device (connected to your TV) as a monitor on your PC. I see it also lets you plug in other USB devices to the TV (remote) end so that you could also plug in a keyboard/mouse to control the computer with. Essentially its a remote monitor. |
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Post by cooknl on May 21, 2012 16:31:08 GMT 2
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Post by triz on May 21, 2012 20:04:29 GMT 2
Hey Rob, Essentially what you want is your TV to directly connect to your pc over ethernet (as in your LAN). This requires your tv to have client software to look for a "server" application on your computer. Your computer will encode the display image to a datastream over your network and your tv captures this datastream and turns it back into an image. Your tv will require to process decoding real time (lagless). That requires some (quite alot actually) processing power and bandwidth. Dont forget, if you have a 24-bits color HD image compressed... takes about (in simple mpeg terms) 970kB per frame. Now there is a codec called H264. I read somewhere that its rated at : 1920 x 1080 progressive 24 frames a sec at 25 Mbps. Progressive HD resolution means that each frame is a full frame (full picture)... TV transmissions are usually in "interlaced" mode (or1920x1080i). This means it requires roughly half the bandwidth (because the picture is turned into two seperate frames which each consist of half the image in lines.) but results in fast moving pictures to be destorted. To encode it real time, 25 Frames per sec at least(!) takes quite alot of processing power. your latency : total latency = encode time(PC) + transmission time(PC lan card + switch) + decode time(TV or in this case the lil box you found) + presentation time(TV). Before the image is generated, encoded and ready to be sent it first has to go through the data bus of your pc and eventually through your network card.... Thats alot of data. For a gigabit network not to much trouble but still it needs to be decoded again at lightning speeds. I dont think the TV is a processing powerhouse for that to do it without buffering. So, if you buy that lil box and let that do the decoding, I fear that it will not bring you the performance you want for racing. If you want to race this way the coding and decoding alone will take more then a few millisecs. I think you know that a few millisecs can be crucial for getting a turn right or not. If its just for watching replays and such, then if its buffering it wont be much trouble. Since speeds matter less. Then its worth a shot. It does say it supports 1920 x 1080 (HD resolution) progressive scan. It doesnt say however what its framerate will be. In short, I think if you want to race on your tv, you should directly connect your pc to the TV by an HDMI cable. This way you have no lag because there is no need to code and decode the video. If you want to watch replays or youtube or browse where framerate and buffering is not a problem, then you can give the lil box a shot. I don't know though what the framerate is that comes out of the box. HD spec for progressive scan for TV is 24 frames per second. Hope this is understandable and helps a bit. Good luck! cheers, Triz |
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