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Post by BurnOut on Feb 17, 2010 17:22:23 GMT 2
A lot of good ideas in this thread. In my opinion part of the success of SpeedSims leagues is keeping the number of events small enough to keep the interest of most people running.
So around 6 events. Format is the thing being most discussed, and I just saw real V8 supercars are starting very soon. How about doing like them, a bit of everything?
6 events: 2 events consisting of 2 sprints, 2nd race with top 8 inverted or w/e 3 regular races long - mandatory pits, etc 1 enduro (2-3 hours) with 2-driver teams and mandatory driver changes
I think it would absolutely rock ;D
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Post by Mustangman on Feb 17, 2010 22:49:42 GMT 2
and a bit more rewarding points system... 9th place is 1 point and so is 20th? beat 11 cars and only to get 1 point?
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Post by triz on Feb 17, 2010 22:56:41 GMT 2
1 point for finishing the race in one piece is fine. being in the top 8 is more of an achievement so u'd get more points... gotta draw a line somewhere
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2010 3:40:35 GMT 2
my idea.
1-20 2-19 3-18 4-17 5-16 6-15 7-14 8-13 9-12
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Post by triz on Feb 18, 2010 8:57:23 GMT 2
my idea. 1-20 2-19 3-18 4-17 5-16 6-15 7-14 8-13 9-12 etc This way when u have a win it doesnt seem to count for that much. I still think having points in the first 8 is fine, and getting a point for bringing itto the finish is not bad either. Maybe the difference between the 8th and 9th place should be 2 points instead of 1. So u get something like : 1 - 13 2 - 11 3 - 9 4 - 7 5 - 6 6 - 5 7 - 4 8 - 3 9 - 1 10 - 1 etc this way ones rewarded for driving into the top 8 and also when getting on the podium. With the race winner getting most points.
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Post by alang on Feb 18, 2010 10:00:35 GMT 2
6 events: 2 events consisting of 2 sprints, 2nd race with top 8 inverted or w/e 3 regular races long - mandatory pits, etc 1 enduro (2-3 hours) with 2-driver teams and mandatory driver changes I'm not against enduro but that would leave privateers outside of it (at least if they don't find a partner), wouldn't it?
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Post by BurnOut on Feb 18, 2010 10:30:38 GMT 2
We can consider guest drivers that dont count towards standings. A lot of food for thought in there
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Post by Mustangman on Feb 18, 2010 20:08:17 GMT 2
another approach would be how many drivers you beat that FINISHED the race ex. beat 0 cars= 1 point 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 ETC that would make more rewarding for getting 9th out of 20cars instead of only getting 1 point if u DNF/DNR a race u get 0.if u finish ##% of race you get counted as a finished car?(thats always optional) Just my 2 cents
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Post by triz on Feb 19, 2010 12:14:46 GMT 2
another approach would be how many drivers you beat that FINISHED the race ex. beat 0 cars= 1 point 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 ETC that would make more rewarding for getting 9th out of 20cars instead of only getting 1 point if u DNF/DNR a race u get 0.if u finish ##% of race you get counted as a finished car?(thats always optional) Just my 2 cents with such a pointsystem one just qualifies dead last and overtakes everyone. I think there should be a line drawn for when one is in the top 8 and who is not. Fast drivers have alot of experience and that pays off when they race CONSISTENT. Being fast is not only about being able to do a faster lap in qualy. Also the drive to get into the top 8 might be an extra push to push hard for that position. To me its useless to count points for how many people you have overtaken or how many places you have gained. Qualifying would be useless. Also when one is not finishing a race one doesnt get points. They dont do that in real life. Its funny that the points system is being debated because even the FIA had its share of changing pointssystems in Formula1 and such. Keep the system simple. Keep it as it is. If you finish last while u could have been 1st that means either u messed up or got into an accident. The leagues/events are to short i guess for when that happens. When u lose out on a race, the possibility of getting the points u need so much to win. with just 6 races there is a maximum of 60 points to get. if u got a two tier championship with one having just one race disconnect, the person might lose out all together right away because the person might have a 10 point deficit all of a sudden. I´d say leave the pointssystem as it is, and maybe just increase the number of races so that a disconnect for example doesnt end your championship chances all together. One with most wins or most highest places should be able to win a championship, not someone who never won a race but becomes champion because his main competitor lost connection or got hit be a backmarker once. just my 99 cents Triz
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Post by Mustangman on Feb 19, 2010 20:43:56 GMT 2
tris "with such a pointsystem one just qualifies dead last and overtakes everyone." No qualifying doesnt effect its how many cars you beat in result not from qualifying on.
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Post by triz on Feb 21, 2010 0:42:30 GMT 2
how many cars you beat. so when you start 20th and finish nineth you'll get 11 points? because you beat 11 cars?
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Post by Mustangman on Feb 21, 2010 2:14:56 GMT 2
how many cars you beat. so when you start 20th and finish nineth you'll get 11 points? because you beat 11 cars? yes that sort of thing but if you beat 0 cars you get auto matic 1 so its amount of cars you beat +1 or that
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Post by oscarhardwick on Feb 21, 2010 2:44:07 GMT 2
Burnouts idea is brilliant, however, may i suggest not changing the points system, yes it is unrewarding to drivers starting lower down who fight up but the qualifying is half the battle, qualify badly and you are less likely to get points, If we were to go with burnout's race formating idea may i suggest a GT2 or ( ask mustang ) GT3 FZR as this would not only mimic a V8 supercar quite well but also be easier to drive than a standard FZR.
food for thought maybe,
Oscar.
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Post by Cholerix on Feb 21, 2010 11:05:24 GMT 2
yes that sort of thing but if you beat 0 cars you get auto matic 1 so its amount of cars you beat +1 or that So by starting from pole and winning the race you get zero points ? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2010 16:31:05 GMT 2
Mustang already has plans for the GT3 class that he invented mate. Can admin delete mine and Oscar's posts as not all of the GT3 stuff is finalized wouldn't want ideas being stolen . And karl he means. You can start wherever and that you'll get as many points as per cars u beat. So say there were 5 cas and u finished 1st, u get 5 pts. If there were 8 cars ud get 8, but each spot is worth one point, last place no matter how many drivers gets 1 Edit Triz: So you think it's fair that if you finish 9th and there are 32 cars u still get same points as 32nd?
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